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We performed the experiment several times in Los Angeles. Each test confirmed his previous results. Whatever the group was talking about stops, they divided into "for" and "against" Molokans being Christians, and discussed their differences, often passionately, as we backed away.

How could they always disagree about being Christian, and why? Mike found a litmus-test in which the Dukh-i-zhiznik population immediately self-classified into 2 groups — 1 practicing religious , and 2 social-cultural secular. Which group was correct? Each had different polar points of view on many dimensions.

For dimension examples, see Variety of Dukh-i-zhizniki. Both kinds mixed at the L. The 2 groups social and practicing did not clash much because before the s the L. The social-secular Christian faction, many of them Y. There were many who easily straddled both realms, like the late "Little Al" Shubin. The most zealous Dukh-i-zhizniki never entered the L. Drinking vegetarian beer and wine was permitted, evidenced by the many bottles left on the curbs and thrown in the parking lot.

I helped fill a trash can with bottles and cans one summer after Wednesday Chai Nite. Whenever a Dukh-i-zhiznik zealot would accuse the L. A few also attended American churches on many Sundays to hear the word of Christ in English.

Though the most zealous branches of Dukh-i-zhizniki historically objected to the U. The religious political balance shifted when the L. Gage Ave was sold mainly due to fear of Mexicans to purchase the current H. Stimson Ave, Hacienda Heights in a White area in their axial eastern sector , radiating closer to the new neighborhoods of the 3rd and 4th generation in East Los Angeles County.

Families who moved south of Los Angeles were confronted in the s with neighborhood integration facilitated by the Housing and Community Development Act of sections 8 and by which people of color began moving into their white suburbs, resulting in a White-flight within Los Angeles County and to Orange County. In the s, the more zealous practicing Dukh-i-zhizniki who wanted an exclusive private school for their assimilating grandchildren, began forcing their more civil social secular brethren away as many joined the new Heritage Club from the H.

A to dominate the property, and eventually purged their newly acquired territory and grammar school of perceived heretics. A series of intense purge attacks occurred to assure that the "Jack Greeners" Heritage Club and anyone who supported the new "Re-Formed" Prygun movement in Oregon, would stay away or be secondary quests to their new social order within the property.

Clubs and Hume Lake camps were banned. Youth were now required to wear kosovorotki boys and kosinki girls as as Dukh-i-zhiznik Molokan Elementary School M. If tried in San Francisco, this social experiment could not be duplicated. Real Molokane would not divide and debate. Such abuses are more common than he knows. The Russian word Molokan should only refer to members of the registered faith. Since real Molokane are not allowed to join the H.

All Maksimisty are Dukh-i-zhizniki , but not all Dukh-i-zhizniki are Maksimisty. Most adapted from Russian folk songs and borrowed from German Protestants. Not during service, but often during meals at weddings, funerals, child dedication, holidays 4. Open canon , a sacred text that can be modified by continuous revelation through their prophets.

Each congregation has 1 or more prophets. T here have been at least prophets since i n all congregations around the world. Over prophesies are written in secret notebooks shown only to trusted believers.

Reorganized in Taurida Governorate , named in in the Caucasus. Все максимисты — дух-и-жизники, но не все дух-и-жизники максимисты. Большинство взято из русских народных песен и заимствовано от немецких протестантов.

Поют во время обеда на свадьбах, похоронах, кстинах и праздниках. Священный текст который может быть непрерывно изменен через откровения пророков. Каждое собрание имеет по меньшей мере одного пророка. С года во всех общинах по всему миру было по меньшей мере пророков. Пророчества только 4 пророков были опубликованы в их Книге солнца, дух и жизнь священная книга от г. Более чем пророчеств были записаны в секретных тетрадях и только иногда эти пророчества показаны самым надежным верующим.

Fundada en los Estados Unidos. Todos los Maksimisty son Dukh-i-zhizniki , pero no todos los Dukh-i-zhizniki son Maksimisty. Ha habido por lo menos profetas desde en todas las congregaciones de todo el mundo. Malakan cheese , made in Kars province, Turkey.

Proper transliteration from Russian молокан - молокане into English: Molokan singular - Molokane plural. Many spelling variations and typographical errors occur in English print 62 counted: Other languages have variant spellings — Turkish: Les Moloque, Molochan; German: Молокан e has been variously translated from Russian into English at least 6 ways: The best translation is "dairy-eater.

Non-sectarian mythical meanings for the Russian root word molokan молокан include: Isajiw, on Multicultural Canada. This essay goes further to examine the origin of the confusion and untangle it, providing a comprehensive explanation of the typological definitions. The ancestry of many Spiritual Christians is from a mixture of indigenous races and tribes, not all "Russian", and even Russians are not a homogeneous pure breed.

Open canon, a sacred text that can be modified by continuous revelation , somewhat similar to Latter Day Saint canons. Over prophesies are recorded in secret notebooks shared with the most trusted members. The most zealous third who moved to Canada further divided into 3 different groups by leader and obeying new laws. Klibanov, History of Religious Sectarianism in Russia s Later the same year, D. Shubin got a photo of a similar sign above at the same monastery, which he published in on page 2 of his Guide to the [Book of the Sun,] Spirit and life with Supplements pages.

The image above shows most of page 2 facing the title page 3 , with the sign enlarged to clearly show that the caption in English misrepresents the Russian text in the photo. The Russian text translated to English: Chief elder of the skoptsy sects, Kondratii Selivanov, Chief of the molokan sects, Semyon Shvetsov, Chief of the Caucasian prygun sects, Maksim Rudomyotkin, In the caption, as published above, the label prygun for Rudomyotkin is obviously omitted.

In his Guide Shubin presents no data about Molokan leader Shvetsov or skoptsy , rather focuses primarily on Rudomyotkin, whom he intentionally falsely claims is of a different faith than what is posted on the museum sign or shown on official archival documents which Shubin reproduced and translated 13 times in his chapter 7. Throughout his Guide Shubin repetitively mis-guides the reader by extensively using a false label in his first 6 chapters pages , and last 3 chapters footnotes on pages Or, you can accept that the word Molokan added written in small script was a mistake ; the added word should have been prygun , based on all the previous documents shown in chapter 7.

If a comprehensive index is added with corrections for labeling bias, translation, and irregular and missing citations, this book can become a good study guide for and about English-speaking Dukh-i-zhizniki. Are these 2 Dukh-i-zhiznik teachers preceptors , front-row speakers — Pivovaroff and Shubin — intentionally misleading their students, confused about their religious history and identity, both, or something else? Who is an ethnic Molokan Jew is a basic question about Molokan Jewish identity and considerations of ethnic Molokan Jewish self-identification.

The question is based in ideas about ethnic Molokan Jewish person-hood which themselves have cultural, religious, genealogical, and personal dimensions. Because ethnic Molokan Jewish identity can include characteristics of an ethnicity, a religion, … the definition of who is an ethnic Molokan Jew has varied, depending on whether a religious, sociological, or ethnic aspect was being considered. The most basic unit of organization among ethnic Molokans Mennonites is the assembly.

There are hundreds of ethnic Molokan assemblies Mennonite churches , many of which are separate from all others. Some assemblies churches are members of a conference, others are formally and informally affiliated. Some, but far from all, regional or area affiliations are associated with larger national or world affiliations.

Thus, there is no single authorized organization that includes all ethnic Molokan assemblies Mennonite churches worldwide. Instead, there is a host of separate assemblies churches along with a myriad of separate affiliations with no particular responsibility to any other group.

Independent assemblies churches can contain as few as part of 1 family or more than a members. Similar size differences occur among separate affiliations.

Worship, assembly discipline and lifestyles vary widely between progressive , moderate , conservative , Old Order and orthodox ethnic Molokans Mennonites in a vast panoply of distinct, independent, and widely dispersed classifications.

For these reasons, no single group of ethnic Molokans Mennonites anywhere can credibly claim to represent, speak for, or lead all ethnic Molokans Mennonites worldwide.

So what is this secret book? What kind of book can cause so many readers to change their lives, their minds and their hearts? It is Holy Scripture, with form and content similar to that of the Bible. Over prophesies are written in secret notebooks, which are shown only to members who believe in their holy spirit.

Within each faith group the styles and melodies vary by geographic territory due to generations of isolation among congregations. For example, Molokane in Central Russia Tambov use less polyphonic protyazhnaya протяжная: Those in Arzerbaijan adapted sounds more similar to Muslem chants than Old Russian folksongs heard in Tambov.

When about 50 families of Dukh-i-zhizniki were imported from Armenia to Australia and the U. Since then, I found many inconsistencies, errors, myths and misunderstandings published, and in oral histories.

I traveled to the Former Soviet Union 5 times , , , , for more than a year total time, to visit and document Spiritual Christian communities. In , I began posting on the Internet. While visiting nearly Spiritual Christian congregations around the world, differences between the often confused faiths became clear. My summary findings here and at molokane. The Russian term molokan 1 unfortunately has too often been confusingly, falsely and vaguely misused when referring to diverse non-homogeneous religious Christian groups or sects, any dissident in Russia, any old faith, or any migrant from Russia to the Caucasus — "Molokan" is the original correct term for the authentic Spiritual Christian Molokan faith since , "Molokan" is often confused with the similar sounding malakan , a label developed in the Caucasus which evolved into an umbrella term referring to any old-faith or dissident peoples from Russia in Transcaucasia , even after they leave the Caucasus.

The term Molokan should be used only for the registered Spiritual Christian Molokan faith. Before the Molokan label, their founding leader, M. Uklein, separated from a tribe labeled with the heresy Ikonobortsy with his family and 70 of the best singers to evangelize along the Volga, central Russia. The Prygun label first appeared in print about after most were resettled in Transcaucasia. The faith was initiated 2 miles west of Glendale AZ from to , in a village of recent immigrants from Russia at 75th Ave and Griffith Lane , then amalgamated with other faiths in Boyle Heights district, Los Angeles CA in the s as various Spiritual Christian faiths from Russia in Los Angeles clashed while trying to compile and edit a common religious text , with guidance from a sociologist at the University of Southern California.

Dukh-i-zhiznik is a neologism formed in to accurately label these old new religious movements NRM. Please properly use these 3 transliterated Russian terms in honest respect, to set the record straight. Avoid confusing English labels, except to define the original labels in the Russian language. Avoid misinformation and disinformation published after Old Orthodox faiths Old Ritualists, staroobryadtsy , Old Believers, staroverie are raskolniki , not Spiritual Christians, and are often also confused as malakan.

A myth among American Dukh-i-zhiznik i is the origin is tam Bog там Бог: God is there , falsely implying their origins are from a place with a holy name. Contents The purpose of this simple Taxonomy Who are Spiritual Christian — Dairy-eaters? Registered Molokane Who are Dukh-i-zhizniki and Pryguny? Three Faiths Today New Label: Demens Пётр Алексеевич Дементьев Dr.

Кочубеевское, Кочубеевский р-н Ставропольский кр. Similar to malakan , non-Orthodox faiths. Obshchei Communal Pivovarovsty followers of M.

Tolstoy Vodiyanie water baptizers Zhidovstvuyushchiye Judaizers etc. Sign facing Lorena street at "Big Church," The Molokan Review , v1.

The words "of Spiritual Jumpers" are absent in this photo of the sign on the "Big Church" assembly. Los Angeles Examiner , September 24, ,. Sign at "Old Cemetery," , removed soon after this photo. Sign on "New Cemetery" office, Molokane 14, Molokani 1, Molokanye 1, milk-drinker s 5, Molokanism X Passion Week , Easter.

Acts 2 , Leviticus Harvest Festival 4 Urozhai, zhatva: X 3-Day Fast, Thanksgiving 4. Annunciation — March 25, announcement by angel Gabriel to the Virgin Mary of the incarnation of Christ. Ascension Day — 40th day after Easter, for the bodily passing of Christ from earth to heaven. Transfiguration — August 6, festival for the supernatural change in the appearance of Christ on the mountain. Epiphany — January 6, for the coming of the 3 gentile wise men, Magi, to Jesus at Bethlehem, and baptism.

Petersburg by Edward J. His table showed their holidays for the entire decade of the s. His congregation resettled from Azerbaijan in the mids. Also in the beginning many judiazers Sabbatarians. Shavei Israel , November 26, Tarasoff, July 31, Last of the [Pryguny] Molokans: The Russian spiritual community in Armenia survives a decline — Novye Izvestiia , December 4, Последние из молокан: Русская духовная община в Армении переживает упадок — Новые Известия , 4 декабря г.

Молодёжь национальных меньшинств PDF — Первая газета , 25 июля , ст. Хильмилли, Шемахинский р-н, Азербайджан, Grushenkovy family, Hilmilli village, Shemahinsky region, Azerbaijan, machine translated. Is your chai kosher? Mexican indigenous Russians rusos русскиe 6: From the Volga to the Salt River: Christian and Muslim Spiritual Songs of Russia " Molokan and Pryguny Genealogy Board went down for a few days.

Doukhobor leader John J. Молокане — Русский Базар, Русский колхоз посреди Азербайджана — Вести, Фамилии Молокан, генеалогические исследования Molokan Families, genealogy research — 27 May Невиданная Армения, , ct. Molokans in Georgia , by: Gogi Tsagareli, June — 18 photos. Most is about Maksimists and Jumpers, not Constant Molokans. Artishchev, Fedotov, Moskalev, Rudakov, Seryaev. Молокане в Москве — Molokans in Moscow — New index page. Молокане присутствует на вероисповедном конференции — 29 ноября Molokans Attend Religious Conference — November 29, The Empire in Practice: Breyfogle , Columbia University conference, April 24, In Spirit and Life: Breyfogle , Ohio State University conference, May 18, Молокане вступили в Международную ассоциацию религиозной свободы — 27 Сентября, Molokans join International Religious Liberty Association — September 27, Проблемы этнокофессиональных групп духоборцев и молокан , С.

Инмкова, РАН, г. Inikova, Russian Academy of Science, A trip to Astrakhanovka — Azerbaidzhan-News, March 7, Aerial photo of Baku Molokan cemetery shows acres destroyed by new highway, houses. Государство и Церковь в России: Русская духовная община в Армении переживает упадок — 4 декабря г. The Last of the Molokans: The Russian spiritual community in Armenia survives a decline — December 4, Eugene Clay , Dept.

Tolstoy helps Molokans from Samara, — Excerpts from Journal. Leo Tolstoy and Russian peasant sectarian writers: New York Times corrects error: Molokans "are not Russian Old Believers". Read review and download free Russian language book. A Scattering of Seeds: Wrestling With The Spirit: A Doukhobor Story , — See 23 min.

The formation and contestation of Molokan identities and communities: The Australian Anthorpological Society Newsletter. Online Bookreviews, by Louis M. Russian Colonists Going to Mexico: Is Kosher Food Really Safer? The milk-drinking Molokans are far yet near — Molokans are Christian believers Photo is of a girl in Kochubeevskoe village, Stavropol territory, Russian Federation.

Atchilar News, Malakanlar — Turkish: The story of the banishment of the innocent and brave: Molokans — January Linked from: Molokans and Jumpers in Turkey. Preface and Postscript by Jonathan J. Will Moscow mayor help Molokans? Поможет ли мэр Москвы молоканам? Russian Genealogy , and Digging up your Russian Roots Two articles edited to show information most useful for Molokan genealogy. California Fires — Пожары в Калифорнии — All churches safe. San Marcos church near fire, area evacuated.

По Следам Молоканства история, факты, проповеди, полемика, обсуждение, фотоие On the Trail of Molokanism history, facts, sermons, controversy, discussion, photos На Ставрополье прошел град на 10 миллионов рублей — The Tape.

RU , Sept 9, Translated: Baku Molokan Cemetery destroyed! Разрушение кладбища молокан в Бakу — дороги и дома строятся над могилами молокан. Russian religious community prospers in Azerbaijan — Russia Today , July 21, Tatiana Grigoryeva seeks asylum. Donate to legal fund. Wedding set for Sept 23, Gervais, Oregon. Фильм о молокане в Азербайджане: Tarasoff, March 10, Guadalupe Valley — 4 newspaper links added.

Google Account needed to view some pages. Doukhobor Exile to the Causacus, — Plus other good maps Molokans and Jumpers followed this and other routes to all parts of the Caucasus. Из опыта изучения молокан Армении , К. Конкретные исследования современных религиозных верованийю. Case studies of contemporary religious beliefs. Doukhobor Choir invition to free performances at Seattle Center.

Tatiana Grigoryeva in Arizona prison. De Giorgi, Rome, Italy. The Old Russian Sects. Christian religion in the Soviet Union: By Christel Lane Pages — Register to see book pages. Socio-political Accomodation and Religious Decline: Comparative Studies in Society and History. April Pages Third Visit to Europe. Chapters 37 and Malakan Christians in Russia [Kars], by Mr.

Bambir Rocks in Tchambarak. Page Journeys in Persia and Kurdistan , General Background, Armenia, and Poland. Сайт постоянных Духовных Христиан Молокан с.

Сандыковы Всех Стран, Объединяйтесь!!! Oldest picture of a Molokan: Этот день в истории — 1 October: This day in history 23 congregations of Molokans in Samara, Old Pictures of Family , and Family photos old. Мордовский Вавилон , в репортаже Алексея Громова, Первый канал — Los Angeles Big Church not sold, but "For sale".

New Romanovsky Freeway Church sold, moving to Whittier. Religious Communities and Urban Communities , pages Psalms or Peace, which way to our destiny? Editorial by Lisa Poznikoff, Iskra , No. Where do folk and popular cultures originate and diffuse?

Molokans, Stundists, and Pashkovites: International Religious Freedom Report Bureau of Democracy, Human Rights, and Labor. Molokan , an ethnically Russian pacifist Christian group that split from the Russian Orthodox Church in the 17th century 5, Kanygin had Christian communist practices and a "community of wives", called Molokan-Mormons. Mentioned in Crypto-Mormons or Pseudo-Mormons? Summary of Russian Mormon Research. Maxim Rudometkin definition in Wikipedia.

Азербайджан исторически являлся образцом религиозной толерантности — Russian Colonists in the Utah Desert: Molokan Community in Utah — to DOC, page 4 Abstract. Костомаров Автобиография — г. Саратов молокане, субботник Excerpt: Kostomarov Autobiography — Saratov Molokans, Subbotnik. Jumpers, relocated from Armenia to Uruguay last year, want to return home. William George Nazaroff and Barbara Wm. Doukhobor Genealogy Website — 10 new lists. Molokane and Pryguny in Turkey — 9 sections indexed, 1 added.

Heaven and Earth — ArmeniaNow: Pavel has been in jail since August 22 for protesting CO conditions. One Ethnic Group in Kars: Outbreak in South Russia contained 5 kids died in Azerbaidjan, 14 may be infected. People afraid to eat poultry, eggs as prices drop. Russian military reduced to 1 year in , but deferments abolished. Trying To Find Home: Navigating Social Strata , by Christine G. Educational Foundations , 17 3 , pp. Doukhobors — an Overview Excerpt from the book: Excerpt from the book: Compiled and edited by Koozma J.

Molokans suffer cold, Georgia without power: Coldest weather in 30 years! Молокане в Азербайджане — Molokans in Azerbaidjan Updated: В Чухурюрде торжественно отмечено летие переселения молокан в Азербайджан Day.

Az, Общество — 03 Августа In Chukhuriurd the th anniversary of the migration of the Molokans into Azerbaijan was celebrated Day. Az, Society — August 3, Kosherization of the World — Added: Do you drink "Passover Coca Cola"? Is your cellphone "paganyi" or "kosher"?

Isreal, Los Angeles, Russia other. Bogomils of Bulgaria and Bosnia: Brockett, MD — Molokan and Prygun Home Page. Molokans in the Far East with photo of 3 Molokan women. Stephan, The Russian Far East: Marilyn Treglazoff, age 60 Added: These links are also at the Doukhobor Genealogy Website.

Canadian Doukhobors on the web: Contract to Maintain Mexico Church, with G. Mendrin surname means "Swede" Added: Раз в сто лет: Без свечей и икон — Once in a years: Двести лет без места. На Ставрополье проходит юбилейный съезд христиан-молокан Two hundred years without a place.

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